1 00:00:06,446 --> 00:00:08,518 Remember, you're calm and contrite. 2 00:00:08,518 --> 00:00:09,485 Calm and contrite. 3 00:00:09,485 --> 00:00:11,089 Can you say that and breathe, too? 4 00:00:11,089 --> 00:00:13,694 We need you to appeal to the jury. 5 00:00:15,230 --> 00:00:17,067 Is she testifying for me? 6 00:00:17,067 --> 00:00:18,804 The state's bringing her. 7 00:00:18,804 --> 00:00:20,040 She's testifying against me? 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,977 We have to keep movin'. 9 00:00:26,085 --> 00:00:27,689 You have to help me, Jordan. 10 00:00:27,689 --> 00:00:29,158 Val, we can't talk to her. 11 00:00:38,611 --> 00:00:41,249 Your First Aid and CPR certifications are current? 12 00:00:41,249 --> 00:00:42,919 Yeah. Just renewed. 13 00:00:42,919 --> 00:00:45,959 Mm-hmm. You were a paramedic? 14 00:00:45,959 --> 00:00:48,363 An EMT. I, I loved it. 15 00:00:48,363 --> 00:00:51,503 Um, being calm in an emergency. 16 00:00:51,503 --> 00:00:54,777 Yup, I love helping people, you know, all of that. 17 00:00:54,777 --> 00:00:58,082 Yeah. Can I ask why you're not looking for an EMT position now? 18 00:00:58,082 --> 00:01:00,087 Uh, ambulance hours are long, 19 00:01:00,087 --> 00:01:03,160 and I have primary custody of, um... 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,998 Yeah, so I, I need something flexible. 21 00:01:05,998 --> 00:01:08,203 Okay. Um... 22 00:01:08,203 --> 00:01:10,508 I'm seeing a long gap here with no employment. 23 00:01:10,508 --> 00:01:13,615 Right. So, I um, I stopped working when I had a baby. 24 00:01:13,615 --> 00:01:17,288 My ex-husband, uh, thought it would be best. 25 00:01:17,288 --> 00:01:19,726 - Okay. - I'm a really hard worker. 26 00:01:20,427 --> 00:01:22,766 You're overqualified to just be driving patients 27 00:01:22,766 --> 00:01:24,268 to medical appointments. 28 00:01:24,268 --> 00:01:26,874 Yeah, I know. Um... 29 00:01:26,874 --> 00:01:28,944 I just, uh, my... 30 00:01:28,944 --> 00:01:34,422 My alimony has run out, and I could really use this job. 31 00:01:34,422 --> 00:01:37,194 Do you have your own car? 32 00:01:37,194 --> 00:01:40,467 Yes, I do! The car's not overqualified. 33 00:01:42,772 --> 00:01:44,108 I mean, it's not fancy. 34 00:01:44,108 --> 00:01:47,549 Uh, but it is reliable. Uh, like me. 35 00:01:47,549 --> 00:01:50,320 Okay. Uh, thank you for coming in. 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,024 We'll get in touch. - Oh, thank you. 37 00:01:52,024 --> 00:01:53,293 - Yeah. - Thank you so much. 38 00:01:53,293 --> 00:01:54,863 And thank you for letting me bring in Oliver. 39 00:01:54,863 --> 00:01:56,065 You're welcome. 40 00:01:56,065 --> 00:01:58,002 - Buddy, can you say thanks? - Thank you. 41 00:01:58,002 --> 00:02:00,140 Whatcha drawing there, Oliver? 42 00:02:00,140 --> 00:02:02,612 It's a "Destroy Anything in Its Path" Robot. 43 00:02:02,612 --> 00:02:04,783 These are all things it's destroying. 44 00:02:04,783 --> 00:02:06,419 Oh! Yeah. 45 00:02:06,419 --> 00:02:09,258 Okay buddy, let's get you to your dad's, okay? 46 00:02:09,793 --> 00:02:11,462 Did you get the job? 47 00:02:11,462 --> 00:02:15,236 Well, fingers crossed! Let's go. 48 00:02:25,357 --> 00:02:28,196 Jason's dad is moving out of their house. 49 00:02:28,196 --> 00:02:30,434 Why do you have to move, and Dad lives here? 50 00:02:30,434 --> 00:02:34,609 Uh, well, that's just the way the judge decided things. 51 00:02:34,609 --> 00:02:37,816 And besides, I like our little place. Don't you? 52 00:02:37,816 --> 00:02:38,951 I guess. 53 00:02:40,220 --> 00:02:43,093 So, uh, your dad is gonna drop you off 54 00:02:43,093 --> 00:02:45,331 on Sunday night, okay? - Okay. 55 00:02:45,331 --> 00:02:48,069 And you can call me, for any reason. 56 00:02:48,069 --> 00:02:50,206 All right? No matter what. 57 00:02:50,206 --> 00:02:53,480 Oh, not now, predatory lender. 58 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,720 Who's Preta Torilender? 59 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,459 Um... 60 00:02:59,459 --> 00:03:02,264 It's like if you borrowed a candy bar 61 00:03:02,264 --> 00:03:06,540 from that destroying robot, and it wanted five back. 62 00:03:06,540 --> 00:03:08,611 - Oh. - Yeah. But it's fine. 63 00:03:08,611 --> 00:03:12,385 I'm, I am fine! No robot is gonna destroy me. 64 00:03:12,385 --> 00:03:14,221 All right, you got a stuffie and a toothbrush? 65 00:03:14,221 --> 00:03:16,259 I have like a million stuffies from Jordan. 66 00:03:16,259 --> 00:03:17,796 Right. Of course you do. 67 00:03:17,796 --> 00:03:20,166 I know you don't like Jordan, but she's nice. 68 00:03:20,166 --> 00:03:22,939 No, I... no, I-I do, I do like her. 69 00:03:22,939 --> 00:03:27,114 I do. And, and what matters is that you like her. 70 00:03:27,114 --> 00:03:29,318 - Yeah. - Okay. 71 00:03:32,659 --> 00:03:34,428 Oh wait. Wait, wait, hold on, buddy. 72 00:03:34,428 --> 00:03:36,132 We have to ring the doorbell, okay? 73 00:03:36,132 --> 00:03:38,270 - It's my house. - Yeah, I know. 74 00:03:38,270 --> 00:03:40,006 Just stay with me. Okay? 75 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:45,584 Ha! Hi, Ollie! 76 00:03:46,753 --> 00:03:47,689 Hi, Jordan. 77 00:03:47,689 --> 00:03:50,027 Oliver is ready for his weekend. 78 00:03:50,027 --> 00:03:52,431 Oliver. I missed you. 79 00:03:52,431 --> 00:03:55,304 I think, uh, I think he's got everything. 80 00:03:55,304 --> 00:03:56,740 We have everything he needs here! 81 00:03:56,740 --> 00:03:58,143 So, I hear. 82 00:03:58,811 --> 00:04:00,815 Hey, I need you to sign this waiver. 83 00:04:00,815 --> 00:04:03,052 We're going to an E-games place on Sunday. 84 00:04:03,052 --> 00:04:06,058 - Cool! - Why does it need a waiver? 85 00:04:06,058 --> 00:04:08,163 I don't know. It's just bumper cars 86 00:04:08,163 --> 00:04:09,833 and laser tag. I'm sure it's safe. 87 00:04:09,833 --> 00:04:11,904 Okay, you need to tell me ahead of time 88 00:04:11,904 --> 00:04:13,005 about these kinds of things. 89 00:04:13,005 --> 00:04:15,476 It just came up. I'm looking at it for an event. 90 00:04:15,476 --> 00:04:18,918 Yeah, okay, well still, we should've had a conversation. 91 00:04:18,918 --> 00:04:20,921 C'mon, Mom. Just sign it! 92 00:04:22,090 --> 00:04:24,462 Okay. Signed. 93 00:04:24,462 --> 00:04:26,933 - Thank you. - Mm-hmm. Okay, I love you. 94 00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:28,904 - Love you too. - Have fun. 95 00:04:29,438 --> 00:04:31,275 Hey, there's a present waiting for you upstairs 96 00:04:31,275 --> 00:04:32,746 in your bedroom. Go on. 97 00:04:32,746 --> 00:04:36,954 Uh, listen I needed to talk to Trey about that sculpture. 98 00:04:36,954 --> 00:04:39,893 - Okay. He's in the garage. - What kinda mood is he in? 99 00:04:39,893 --> 00:04:42,364 His moods fine, Val. It's always fine. 100 00:04:42,364 --> 00:04:44,970 I didn't make up what he was like. 101 00:04:44,970 --> 00:04:46,974 - I just... - I didn't. 102 00:04:46,974 --> 00:04:49,078 - Okay. - Okay. 103 00:05:02,906 --> 00:05:05,344 Trey. Trey. 104 00:05:05,344 --> 00:05:07,347 I need to talk to you. 105 00:05:07,347 --> 00:05:10,120 So, I'm, I'm a little behind on my car payments, 106 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,324 and I need my car for this new job, 107 00:05:12,324 --> 00:05:14,562 so I wondered if I could have this back. 108 00:05:15,665 --> 00:05:16,633 Why? 109 00:05:16,633 --> 00:05:18,771 Well, Annie's really having a moment, 110 00:05:18,771 --> 00:05:21,710 and her pieces are selling for a lot of money online. 111 00:05:22,646 --> 00:05:24,716 I don't want to sell it. 112 00:05:27,689 --> 00:05:29,425 You never even liked it. 113 00:05:29,425 --> 00:05:30,662 We're not selling it. 114 00:05:30,662 --> 00:05:32,097 Trey, she was my friend. 115 00:05:32,097 --> 00:05:35,070 I should've put it on the list I gave the judge. 116 00:05:35,070 --> 00:05:36,674 Yeah, well, you didn't, 117 00:05:36,674 --> 00:05:39,613 and it was a wedding present to the both of us, so... 118 00:05:40,213 --> 00:05:43,486 I was very agitated at the time. 119 00:05:43,486 --> 00:05:45,089 Look at yourself, you're pathetic! 120 00:05:45,858 --> 00:05:46,960 No kidding. 121 00:05:48,396 --> 00:05:50,635 Okay, I... I'll split it with you, 122 00:05:50,635 --> 00:05:52,204 the money. 50-50, okay? 123 00:05:52,204 --> 00:05:56,145 I just, I need a car. I need to take Oliver to school, 124 00:05:56,145 --> 00:05:58,450 and, and to pick him up. 125 00:05:58,951 --> 00:06:00,688 And what are you doing with the child support? 126 00:06:00,688 --> 00:06:03,426 Paying rent. I'm feeding and clothing our son. 127 00:06:03,426 --> 00:06:07,167 Look, Val, if this is all just too hard, 128 00:06:07,167 --> 00:06:09,305 Jordan and I can just take custody. 129 00:06:09,305 --> 00:06:10,674 You can't have him. 130 00:06:10,674 --> 00:06:12,679 Well, he could use some stability. 131 00:06:12,679 --> 00:06:14,949 Look, Val, let's just be honest, okay? 132 00:06:14,949 --> 00:06:17,588 You lost your last job, you can't hold down your new one 133 00:06:17,588 --> 00:06:21,596 and you are one mess-up away from being a drunk again. 134 00:06:21,596 --> 00:06:23,099 I'm only like this because of you. 135 00:06:23,099 --> 00:06:25,805 Because of... because of what you did to me. 136 00:06:25,805 --> 00:06:28,276 No. No, no, no. 137 00:06:30,581 --> 00:06:33,353 You were crazy when we met. 138 00:06:33,353 --> 00:06:36,793 Which at the time, was kind of hot. But now? 139 00:06:38,196 --> 00:06:41,201 So, I'll just take this. 140 00:06:46,078 --> 00:06:48,216 It's mine! 141 00:06:48,550 --> 00:06:50,955 - Take it from me. - Mom! 142 00:06:51,590 --> 00:06:53,426 Look at my new toy. 143 00:06:53,426 --> 00:06:55,463 It's cool bud. I'll see you Sunday. 144 00:07:00,073 --> 00:07:01,776 I don't know. 145 00:07:18,209 --> 00:07:19,545 Argh! 146 00:07:21,950 --> 00:07:24,956 Okay. Okay. 147 00:07:58,657 --> 00:08:01,663 Oh. I get it. 148 00:08:01,663 --> 00:08:04,401 That blabbermouth Junior filed a complaint... 149 00:08:04,401 --> 00:08:06,072 ...'cause I pushed him around. 150 00:08:06,072 --> 00:08:08,544 I'll get you a punching bag for Christmas. 151 00:08:08,544 --> 00:08:10,413 ...and we'll be adding the Tuesday night group, 152 00:08:10,413 --> 00:08:12,250 that people have been asking for. 153 00:08:12,651 --> 00:08:14,288 And now, I'll open it up. 154 00:08:14,288 --> 00:08:16,593 Uh, yeah, I'll go. 155 00:08:16,593 --> 00:08:19,431 Uh, yeah, I'm really struggling this weekend. 156 00:08:19,431 --> 00:08:21,168 Val, uh, you're on mute. 157 00:08:21,168 --> 00:08:24,809 Oh sorry. Uh... here we go. 158 00:08:24,809 --> 00:08:27,515 Yeah, I-I said I'm, I'm struggling. 159 00:08:27,515 --> 00:08:31,289 Uh, my kid is at his dad's this weekend, and... 160 00:08:31,957 --> 00:08:34,294 I just, I hate dropping him off there. 161 00:08:35,196 --> 00:08:36,800 I worry. 162 00:08:37,702 --> 00:08:40,106 He drew this, uh, this picture 163 00:08:40,106 --> 00:08:44,583 of a "Destroy Anything in Its Path Robot," 164 00:08:44,583 --> 00:08:46,820 and I thought, "Oh, it's your dad! 165 00:08:46,820 --> 00:08:48,489 Looks just like him!" 166 00:08:48,489 --> 00:08:50,861 And then I thought, I don't know, maybe, 167 00:08:50,861 --> 00:08:53,233 maybe I'm the destroy everything robot. 168 00:08:53,233 --> 00:08:55,971 I mean, I, I chose my ex. 169 00:08:55,971 --> 00:09:00,881 And his new wife, she's so perfect. 170 00:09:01,749 --> 00:09:03,821 You know? Everything is, is calm, 171 00:09:03,821 --> 00:09:06,025 and everything is clean, and I just I don't know how 172 00:09:06,025 --> 00:09:10,500 she's doing it, because I feel like a mess. 173 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:13,406 I, I, I can't even work as an EMT, 174 00:09:13,406 --> 00:09:18,049 a job that I-I loved to do, because I have panic attacks. 175 00:09:18,049 --> 00:09:22,257 And... yeah, I know, I know I shouldn't compare... 176 00:09:23,661 --> 00:09:25,798 But I do. 177 00:09:27,401 --> 00:09:28,804 Anyway... 178 00:09:29,606 --> 00:09:32,477 I really, really, really wanted a drink last night, 179 00:09:32,477 --> 00:09:33,847 and I didn't have one. 180 00:09:33,847 --> 00:09:35,584 Because the most important thing 181 00:09:35,584 --> 00:09:37,855 is that I get to raise my kid. 182 00:09:38,356 --> 00:09:40,259 Yeah, that's where I am today. 183 00:09:40,259 --> 00:09:42,898 Thank you for sharing, Val. We're glad you're here. 184 00:09:42,898 --> 00:09:45,170 - Yeah. - Can I offer a reflection? 185 00:09:45,170 --> 00:09:47,842 Um, can you just hold on for a second? 186 00:09:49,512 --> 00:09:51,382 God! Oh shoot! 187 00:09:51,917 --> 00:09:54,522 Hey! Hey! What are you doing? That's my car! 188 00:09:54,522 --> 00:09:55,824 I just go where they tell me. 189 00:09:55,824 --> 00:09:57,795 No, no, no, no, no. It's a... 190 00:09:57,795 --> 00:09:59,933 Yes, hi this is Valentina Pearce. 191 00:09:59,933 --> 00:10:04,475 Uh, case number 9-4-6-3-2. 192 00:10:04,475 --> 00:10:06,145 Yeah, yeah. No, look, I know you called. 193 00:10:06,145 --> 00:10:08,049 I was with my son, I couldn't answer the phone. 194 00:10:08,049 --> 00:10:10,153 Well, yeah, I can give you a credit card now. 195 00:10:10,153 --> 00:10:12,057 Actually, I'm gonna have to put this on two cards. 196 00:10:12,057 --> 00:10:14,729 Just gimme a second? Do not take my car! 197 00:10:17,067 --> 00:10:21,075 You will hear that the defendant described herself 198 00:10:21,075 --> 00:10:25,417 to the police as a long-suffering single mother, 199 00:10:25,417 --> 00:10:26,986 devoted to her child. 200 00:10:26,986 --> 00:10:29,793 But you will also hear evidence 201 00:10:29,793 --> 00:10:32,197 of her reckless financial behavior 202 00:10:32,197 --> 00:10:35,871 and her unfortunate history of alcohol abuse. 203 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,543 She demanded money from the victim, 204 00:10:38,543 --> 00:10:41,281 and when he refused, she snapped, 205 00:10:41,281 --> 00:10:43,018 and killed him. 206 00:11:04,762 --> 00:11:08,136 - All right, have fun pal. - Okay. Bye, Dad. 207 00:11:08,136 --> 00:11:09,706 Let's go, Oliver. 208 00:11:10,107 --> 00:11:12,310 Don't stay long. Yep. 209 00:11:14,181 --> 00:11:16,051 You got it? 210 00:11:17,153 --> 00:11:18,790 Shoot. 211 00:11:31,182 --> 00:11:32,450 Okay. 212 00:11:33,654 --> 00:11:35,222 Okay. 213 00:11:45,076 --> 00:11:46,478 Okay. 214 00:12:33,105 --> 00:12:34,542 Trey? 215 00:12:37,013 --> 00:12:38,182 Trey? 216 00:12:38,784 --> 00:12:40,152 Trey? 217 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:47,067 Come on. 218 00:12:47,067 --> 00:12:49,004 You're drunk! 219 00:12:51,677 --> 00:12:53,313 Please, please, please. 220 00:12:53,313 --> 00:12:54,682 Huh? 221 00:12:54,682 --> 00:12:55,718 Come on. 222 00:13:35,631 --> 00:13:37,568 Come on, come on, Jordan. Pick up. 223 00:14:01,517 --> 00:14:03,520 Jordan. Hi. - Hey. 224 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,622 Uh, oh, I, I tried calling. 225 00:14:04,622 --> 00:14:07,027 Oh, sorry. 226 00:14:07,027 --> 00:14:09,865 Yeah, I forgot, um, there's this school project 227 00:14:09,865 --> 00:14:11,569 that Oliver's supposed to finish. 228 00:14:11,569 --> 00:14:14,441 They have to do this map of their world thing, 229 00:14:14,441 --> 00:14:16,680 and it's, it's set up all over the kitchen table, 230 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:18,015 and, and it's due tomorrow. 231 00:14:18,015 --> 00:14:21,422 So, I wondered if I could just take him with me. 232 00:14:21,422 --> 00:14:22,691 - Now? - Yeah, I mean, 233 00:14:22,691 --> 00:14:24,294 it's a really important project. 234 00:14:24,294 --> 00:14:26,800 It's Trey's weekend. He's meeting us for dinner. 235 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,074 I actually told Trey about it, so... 236 00:14:31,074 --> 00:14:35,884 Oh really? Let me call Trey. 237 00:14:44,935 --> 00:14:46,806 Hi, honey. Val's here to take Oliver home, 238 00:14:46,806 --> 00:14:49,411 so it'll just be us for dinner, 'kay? 239 00:14:49,411 --> 00:14:50,680 Okay. 240 00:14:58,863 --> 00:15:01,101 Okay, buddy. It's time to go. 241 00:15:01,101 --> 00:15:03,105 - We just got here! - Okay, well, we can come back, 242 00:15:03,105 --> 00:15:04,441 all right? - You never let me do 243 00:15:04,441 --> 00:15:07,047 what I want to do! - I do, actually. 244 00:15:07,047 --> 00:15:08,517 My stuff is still at the house. 245 00:15:08,517 --> 00:15:10,520 Okay, well I'm sorry, but we have to go. 246 00:15:16,365 --> 00:15:19,873 Okay. I got the good honey mustard. 247 00:15:19,873 --> 00:15:21,108 And chocolate milk! 248 00:15:21,108 --> 00:15:23,012 We were supposed to do laser tag 249 00:15:23,012 --> 00:15:24,281 after the bumper cars. 250 00:15:24,281 --> 00:15:26,619 And that's why you get to watch a video! 251 00:15:40,981 --> 00:15:42,718 Hey, what's up? 252 00:15:42,718 --> 00:15:44,689 Are you somewhere you can talk? 253 00:15:44,689 --> 00:15:47,226 Yeah. What's going on? 254 00:15:48,730 --> 00:15:50,600 Trey's dead. 255 00:15:51,235 --> 00:15:52,404 What? 256 00:15:52,404 --> 00:15:54,575 I'm sorry. Maybe you should sit down. 257 00:15:55,109 --> 00:15:56,546 - Okay. - He didn't show up 258 00:15:56,546 --> 00:15:59,117 at the restaurant, and he wasn't answering his phone, 259 00:15:59,117 --> 00:16:01,221 and so I came home and I... 260 00:16:03,392 --> 00:16:06,633 Something electrical went wrong in the garage. 261 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:09,171 What do you mean something electrical? 262 00:16:09,171 --> 00:16:10,875 I don't know. I think it was the welder. 263 00:16:10,875 --> 00:16:12,310 It wasn't set up right. 264 00:16:12,310 --> 00:16:14,883 I don't know, I couldn't really follow. 265 00:16:14,883 --> 00:16:16,753 It shocked Trey's heart. 266 00:16:17,186 --> 00:16:19,592 Jordan, I'm, I'm so sorry. 267 00:16:19,592 --> 00:16:21,529 I feel so terrible I wasn't home. I, I... 268 00:16:21,529 --> 00:16:23,031 Maybe I could have done something. 269 00:16:23,031 --> 00:16:25,638 No, there's nothing you could have done. 270 00:16:25,638 --> 00:16:28,208 Um, can I help in any way? 271 00:16:28,208 --> 00:16:30,814 I'm so sorry you're gonna have to tell Oliver. 272 00:16:30,814 --> 00:16:33,786 I... I hope he'll be okay. 273 00:16:33,786 --> 00:16:36,626 Me, too. Um, thanks for calling. 274 00:16:47,447 --> 00:16:50,353 The state would like to call Jordan Winter as a witness, 275 00:16:50,353 --> 00:16:51,656 Your Honor. 276 00:17:06,185 --> 00:17:08,657 Ms. Pearce? I'm Detective Ross. 277 00:17:08,657 --> 00:17:09,892 Oh! Hi. 278 00:17:09,892 --> 00:17:13,198 I wanted to ask you a few questions about Trey Winter. 279 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:15,135 Uh, okay. Why? 280 00:17:15,135 --> 00:17:16,606 You know he was found dead? 281 00:17:16,606 --> 00:17:20,780 Yeah. Uh, Jordan told me. His wife. I'm sorry. 282 00:17:21,950 --> 00:17:23,352 Is your son here? 283 00:17:23,352 --> 00:17:24,922 Yeah, I have to pick him up soon. 284 00:17:24,922 --> 00:17:26,358 How long will this take? 285 00:17:26,358 --> 00:17:29,064 The sooner I ask the questions, the better. 286 00:17:29,064 --> 00:17:32,470 Okay. Yeah, sure. Uh, come on in. 287 00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:34,140 Great. 288 00:17:38,517 --> 00:17:41,488 Uh, do you want water, coffee? Something? 289 00:17:41,488 --> 00:17:42,992 No thanks. 290 00:17:43,660 --> 00:17:45,396 It would be helpful if you could tell me 291 00:17:45,396 --> 00:17:48,168 where you were on the day of your ex-husband's death. 292 00:17:48,168 --> 00:17:51,207 Uh, uh... where I was? Why? 293 00:17:51,207 --> 00:17:54,815 Uh, just take me through your day. Can we sit? 294 00:17:55,684 --> 00:17:57,153 Uh, yeah, sure. 295 00:17:57,153 --> 00:18:00,860 Um, I... well my kid was at his dad's. 296 00:18:00,860 --> 00:18:03,432 Uh, so I did a bunch of laundry. 297 00:18:03,432 --> 00:18:06,137 And then I, I cleaned my car. 298 00:18:06,137 --> 00:18:08,175 Um, I need it for this new job. 299 00:18:08,175 --> 00:18:09,311 It's uh, medical driving. 300 00:18:09,311 --> 00:18:10,681 It's just a, it's a temporary thing. 301 00:18:10,681 --> 00:18:13,251 And then, um... Oh, I picked up Oliver 302 00:18:13,251 --> 00:18:15,623 from this uh, bumper-car thing. 303 00:18:15,623 --> 00:18:17,895 Oh um, EZone? 304 00:18:17,895 --> 00:18:19,698 Yeah! Have you been there? 305 00:18:19,698 --> 00:18:22,572 Yeah, I hope it's not forever tied to this awful thing 306 00:18:22,572 --> 00:18:25,043 in his mind. His dad loved cars. So... 307 00:18:25,043 --> 00:18:26,879 What time was that? That you picked him up. 308 00:18:27,447 --> 00:18:31,522 Oh, uh... I'm not sure. Um... 309 00:18:32,290 --> 00:18:35,262 So, you drove directly to EZone? 310 00:18:35,262 --> 00:18:38,169 You didn't go anywhere first? 311 00:18:38,169 --> 00:18:40,306 Yeah, I don't remember. I don't think so. 312 00:18:40,306 --> 00:18:42,243 You know what? Take your time. 313 00:18:42,912 --> 00:18:44,314 Okay. I'm sorry. It's just, 314 00:18:44,314 --> 00:18:47,186 it's been a really, um, confusing week. So... 315 00:18:47,186 --> 00:18:49,825 You know, um, this might help. 316 00:18:57,139 --> 00:18:58,776 It's a neighbor's doorbell video. 317 00:19:00,747 --> 00:19:02,484 Okay, uh... 318 00:19:02,484 --> 00:19:04,889 I mean, yes. I, I went to the house. 319 00:19:04,889 --> 00:19:08,028 And when I was there, I heard a sound from the garage, 320 00:19:08,028 --> 00:19:12,304 and I, I went in, and I found him. And... 321 00:19:12,705 --> 00:19:14,809 Yeah, I mean, I don't know what I was thinking. 322 00:19:14,809 --> 00:19:16,211 I, I had a panic attack. 323 00:19:16,211 --> 00:19:19,384 I get those, uh, sometimes, and I think my brain 324 00:19:19,384 --> 00:19:21,488 just uh, it shut off 325 00:19:21,488 --> 00:19:23,726 when I realized that he was dead. 326 00:19:24,695 --> 00:19:25,831 You didn't call 911? 327 00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:27,500 Well, I am 9-1-1. 328 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:30,240 I, I was an EMT, that's my training. 329 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,076 And you didn't report the discovery? 330 00:19:32,076 --> 00:19:33,813 You just left him there? 331 00:19:34,915 --> 00:19:36,619 Yeah, well that was wrong. 332 00:19:36,619 --> 00:19:39,992 I was, uh, in shock. And I, um... 333 00:19:39,992 --> 00:19:44,434 I wanted to protect my son from, from seeing any of it. 334 00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:48,342 You know, you don't need to keep talking to me. 335 00:19:48,342 --> 00:19:51,114 And you can have a lawyer present, if you want. 336 00:19:51,114 --> 00:19:53,753 A lawyer? I mean, I didn't do anything. 337 00:19:53,753 --> 00:19:56,559 Then why did you lie to me about going into the house? 338 00:19:56,559 --> 00:19:58,663 Yes, I know I shouldn't have. 339 00:19:58,663 --> 00:20:01,234 But I'm telling you the truth now. 340 00:20:02,838 --> 00:20:05,209 Do you have someone who can pick up your son? 341 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,750 Um... 342 00:20:14,862 --> 00:20:15,931 Hi. 343 00:20:15,931 --> 00:20:19,003 Yeah, I was, um, hoping you could pick up 344 00:20:19,003 --> 00:20:21,008 Oliver from school today. 345 00:20:21,008 --> 00:20:23,980 I'm... being arrested. 346 00:20:31,428 --> 00:20:32,931 - Thanks. - Yep. 347 00:20:34,902 --> 00:20:36,639 Ms. Pearce, I'm Marta Bryant. 348 00:20:36,639 --> 00:20:38,576 I'm the public defender assigned to your case. 349 00:20:38,576 --> 00:20:41,816 Oh, thank God. There's been a huge misunderstanding! 350 00:20:41,816 --> 00:20:44,555 Your police report says that you didn't report 351 00:20:44,555 --> 00:20:47,427 your ex's death, and lied about breaking in? 352 00:20:47,861 --> 00:20:51,903 Uh, I mean, yeah... Look, I panicked. 353 00:20:51,903 --> 00:20:54,876 Um, my ex-husband, he was... 354 00:20:55,443 --> 00:20:57,146 He was abusive, and he was cruel. 355 00:20:57,146 --> 00:20:58,315 But I didn't kill him! 356 00:20:58,315 --> 00:20:59,918 How did he get partial custody 357 00:20:59,918 --> 00:21:01,722 of your son, if he was abusive? 358 00:21:01,722 --> 00:21:04,595 Well, you know, he had an expensive lawyer. 359 00:21:04,595 --> 00:21:06,599 And he charmed the judge, 360 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:09,170 like he charmed everyone. 361 00:21:09,170 --> 00:21:11,208 I spent our whole marriage covering for him, 362 00:21:11,208 --> 00:21:14,781 so there was, there was no proof of any abuse. 363 00:21:16,318 --> 00:21:18,222 All of that could just give you more motive. 364 00:21:18,222 --> 00:21:19,591 I mean, okay, yeah, I have motive, 365 00:21:19,591 --> 00:21:23,600 but I have no idea how I could have murdered him. 366 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,305 I mean what? I shocked him with a welder? 367 00:21:26,305 --> 00:21:27,974 How would I even do that? 368 00:21:28,475 --> 00:21:31,348 Look, I don't know what the state will say yet, 369 00:21:31,348 --> 00:21:33,118 but they have a dead body, 370 00:21:33,118 --> 00:21:35,624 and they have an angry ex-wife who broke into the house 371 00:21:35,624 --> 00:21:37,861 at the time of death, and then lied about being there. 372 00:21:37,861 --> 00:21:42,102 So, it's just not a good story for you. 373 00:21:43,205 --> 00:21:44,742 You could take a plea. 374 00:21:44,742 --> 00:21:47,347 We could get manslaughter, a shorter sentence. 375 00:21:47,347 --> 00:21:49,718 No. I'm not gonna... I'm not gonna lie 376 00:21:49,718 --> 00:21:52,190 and say I killed Oliver's dad! I'm not gonna do that. 377 00:21:52,190 --> 00:21:55,096 So... so you have to find 378 00:21:55,096 --> 00:21:59,104 some way to get me outta here. Okay? 379 00:22:10,828 --> 00:22:14,267 Uh, listen Jordan, I know you don't like me, 380 00:22:14,267 --> 00:22:16,104 but I am not a murderer. 381 00:22:16,104 --> 00:22:18,074 Why were you at the house? 382 00:22:18,976 --> 00:22:20,781 Okay, I, um... 383 00:22:20,781 --> 00:22:22,751 I went to take back the sculpture. 384 00:22:22,751 --> 00:22:25,422 And when I was there, I heard a noise in the garage, 385 00:22:25,422 --> 00:22:28,228 and I found him. And he was already gone. 386 00:22:28,228 --> 00:22:29,699 I swear. 387 00:22:29,699 --> 00:22:31,669 It was the worst possible moment for you to be there. 388 00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:33,405 You know that? - Yeah, I know. 389 00:22:33,405 --> 00:22:35,409 It's like a nightmare. 390 00:22:35,409 --> 00:22:38,081 How's Oliver? What did you tell him? 391 00:22:38,081 --> 00:22:40,319 That you're helping the police figure things out. 392 00:22:40,319 --> 00:22:43,058 He's okay, but he knows something's up. 393 00:22:43,058 --> 00:22:44,729 He's smart. 394 00:22:45,196 --> 00:22:46,733 Well, thank you for taking him. 395 00:22:46,733 --> 00:22:48,903 I had no one else to call. 396 00:22:49,404 --> 00:22:51,408 I can't believe they're charging me. 397 00:22:51,408 --> 00:22:53,078 I mean, how stupid do they think I am? 398 00:22:53,078 --> 00:22:56,251 If I, if I was going to the house to kill Trey, 399 00:22:56,251 --> 00:22:58,422 I, I would've thought about cameras! 400 00:22:58,422 --> 00:23:00,594 That makes sense. They just have to look closer. 401 00:23:00,594 --> 00:23:02,831 You know? Do, do what they do on TV. 402 00:23:02,831 --> 00:23:04,802 Forensics. They'll find something 403 00:23:04,802 --> 00:23:06,905 that proves this was an accident. 404 00:23:07,975 --> 00:23:09,945 You shouldn't have been at the house. 405 00:23:09,945 --> 00:23:12,551 Yeah, I know but I, I, I didn't do it. 406 00:23:12,551 --> 00:23:14,821 I know you didn't. 407 00:23:16,458 --> 00:23:17,627 Jordan? 408 00:23:17,627 --> 00:23:19,631 - I have to go. - Wait. 409 00:23:19,631 --> 00:23:21,100 It'll be okay. I know it will. 410 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:24,073 Jordan, just hold on. Can you please just... 411 00:23:32,323 --> 00:23:34,628 I-I was so stupid not to see it! 412 00:23:34,628 --> 00:23:37,333 Jordan is the only one who thinks I didn't do it 413 00:23:37,333 --> 00:23:38,937 because she knows that I'm innocent! 414 00:23:38,937 --> 00:23:40,574 Because she killed him! 415 00:23:40,574 --> 00:23:42,009 - Based on what? - Well, she practically 416 00:23:42,009 --> 00:23:44,481 just admitted it to me. - That she killed him? 417 00:23:44,849 --> 00:23:47,755 Well, no, but you know I, I could tell. 418 00:23:47,755 --> 00:23:49,491 I could, I could see it in her eyes. 419 00:23:49,491 --> 00:23:51,529 There's no evidence that points to Jordan. 420 00:23:51,529 --> 00:23:53,365 There's, there's nothing. And the police 421 00:23:53,365 --> 00:23:55,402 looked at the wife. They always do. 422 00:23:55,402 --> 00:23:56,872 Look if you would have been in the room, 423 00:23:56,872 --> 00:23:59,745 you would've seen it, too. Okay? And then she just, she ran. 424 00:23:59,745 --> 00:24:01,749 Okay. The only thing to do right now is to focus 425 00:24:01,749 --> 00:24:03,653 on your defense, that you tried to revive him 426 00:24:03,653 --> 00:24:06,592 after an accident, and make you appealing to a jury. 427 00:24:06,592 --> 00:24:08,629 Isn't finding the real killer 428 00:24:08,629 --> 00:24:11,368 gonna make me a lot more appealing? 429 00:24:11,368 --> 00:24:13,639 No. It won't serve you to point at Jordan 430 00:24:13,639 --> 00:24:15,677 with no evidence. Trust me, it will only make you seem 431 00:24:15,677 --> 00:24:17,212 remorseless and vindictive. 432 00:24:17,212 --> 00:24:20,953 I can't have remorse for something I didn't do! 433 00:24:22,055 --> 00:24:24,828 Have you ever known the defendant to seem unstable? 434 00:24:24,828 --> 00:24:27,901 I mean, she's a single mom. It's a lot. 435 00:24:31,509 --> 00:24:34,682 Did you send an email to your husband 436 00:24:34,682 --> 00:24:37,655 describing the defendant as, quote... 437 00:24:37,655 --> 00:24:39,725 "Scarily unhinged"? 438 00:24:40,693 --> 00:24:43,231 If I did, I was exaggerating. 439 00:24:43,231 --> 00:24:44,535 The two of them shared a child, 440 00:24:44,535 --> 00:24:46,004 sometimes there were frustrations. 441 00:24:46,004 --> 00:24:47,406 Did you go on to say, 442 00:24:47,406 --> 00:24:50,178 "I never know what she's going to do next"? 443 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,282 I guess I did. 444 00:25:01,268 --> 00:25:04,742 Can you verify that this is your husband, Mr. Winter? 445 00:25:04,742 --> 00:25:05,877 Yes. 446 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,083 These photographs were from your social media accounts, 447 00:25:09,083 --> 00:25:11,655 and your husband's. Was this a vacation? 448 00:25:12,156 --> 00:25:13,659 Yeah. Sorry... 449 00:25:13,659 --> 00:25:14,962 I've never been in court before, 450 00:25:14,962 --> 00:25:16,699 I didn't know what this would be like. 451 00:25:16,699 --> 00:25:17,968 I don't think Val did anything. 452 00:25:17,968 --> 00:25:19,972 No, no. That's not the purpose of this exhibit. 453 00:25:19,972 --> 00:25:21,576 We're just trying to give the jury 454 00:25:21,576 --> 00:25:22,877 a sense of who Trey was, 455 00:25:22,877 --> 00:25:24,581 and of the life that was lost, 456 00:25:24,581 --> 00:25:27,052 since he can't be with us right now. 457 00:25:28,756 --> 00:25:31,762 Could you tell us the story of how you and your husband met? 458 00:25:31,762 --> 00:25:35,102 Um, we met at a 40th birthday party 459 00:25:35,102 --> 00:25:37,841 that I planned. I'm an event planner. 460 00:25:37,841 --> 00:25:41,615 Trey was a guest. He was telling funny stories. 461 00:25:41,615 --> 00:25:44,053 So, people enjoyed themselves around Trey? 462 00:25:44,420 --> 00:25:48,228 - Yes. - Is this Trey's son, Oliver? 463 00:25:49,631 --> 00:25:53,037 - Yes. - Were Trey and his son close? 464 00:25:53,606 --> 00:25:55,242 Fairly close. 465 00:25:57,347 --> 00:25:59,083 Did he enjoy this party? 466 00:26:00,887 --> 00:26:03,793 Yeah. Trey liked to give gifts. 467 00:26:03,793 --> 00:26:06,230 And is this a fishing trip with Trey? 468 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:08,770 Yeah. 469 00:26:08,770 --> 00:26:11,208 So, they would have shared that bond, right? 470 00:26:11,208 --> 00:26:13,178 As Oliver got older? 471 00:26:14,447 --> 00:26:16,250 Mm-hmm. 472 00:26:18,354 --> 00:26:20,726 I'm trying to paint a picture 473 00:26:20,726 --> 00:26:23,131 of your husband for the jury. 474 00:26:24,233 --> 00:26:26,204 So they can see who we lost. 475 00:26:26,204 --> 00:26:27,740 You have. 476 00:26:28,743 --> 00:26:30,045 Thank you, Mrs. Winter. 477 00:26:30,045 --> 00:26:32,751 I know that this is very difficult for you. 478 00:26:32,751 --> 00:26:34,386 No further questions. 479 00:26:34,386 --> 00:26:36,258 Uh, just one moment, please? 480 00:26:46,444 --> 00:26:50,152 Uh, can we go back a few photos in the exhibit, please? 481 00:26:52,223 --> 00:26:53,792 Thanks. Hi, Mrs. Winter. 482 00:26:53,792 --> 00:26:57,667 Uh, this photo was taken at Olivers last birthday party. 483 00:26:57,667 --> 00:27:00,038 Is that correct? - Yes. 484 00:27:00,038 --> 00:27:03,445 And would you mind sharing with us when his birthday is? 485 00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:06,184 It, it was August 14th. 486 00:27:06,552 --> 00:27:08,221 August 14th. Okay. 487 00:27:08,221 --> 00:27:11,829 We had a hot August, if you'll remember. 488 00:27:11,829 --> 00:27:14,000 It must have been pretty uncomfortable for you 489 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,540 wearing a long-sleeved sweater in August. 490 00:27:18,174 --> 00:27:20,112 - I don't remember. - Well, you can see 491 00:27:20,112 --> 00:27:21,848 Trey and Oliver, they're both wearing shorts, 492 00:27:21,848 --> 00:27:23,820 and then you're in a turtle neck sweater. I'm just curious 493 00:27:23,820 --> 00:27:25,957 if there's a reason why you're dressed so warmly. 494 00:27:25,957 --> 00:27:27,594 Objection. Why is this relevant? 495 00:27:27,594 --> 00:27:29,497 Get to the point, counsellor. 496 00:27:29,497 --> 00:27:32,236 I'll try to be as clear as possible, Mrs. Winter. 497 00:27:32,236 --> 00:27:34,407 Can you talk to me about choosing your outfit 498 00:27:34,407 --> 00:27:37,914 for Oliver's last birthday party on August 14th? 499 00:27:38,583 --> 00:27:40,620 I don't remember. I'm, I'm... 500 00:27:40,620 --> 00:27:42,824 I don't feel very well. Can I be excused? 501 00:27:42,824 --> 00:27:44,895 Please answer the question as well as you can. 502 00:27:44,895 --> 00:27:46,430 It's a simple question, Mrs. Winter. 503 00:27:46,430 --> 00:27:48,703 You're still not answering me. All you have to do 504 00:27:48,703 --> 00:27:50,707 is tell the truth. Was the sweater 505 00:27:50,707 --> 00:27:52,009 maybe hiding something? 506 00:27:52,376 --> 00:27:54,446 Okay, I'm gonna remind you, you're under oath. 507 00:27:54,446 --> 00:27:56,384 Can you please just tell us why, 508 00:27:56,384 --> 00:27:58,856 at a hot summer event, when everyone else around you 509 00:27:58,856 --> 00:28:00,560 is wearing shorts, that you chose to wear 510 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,329 a turtleneck sweater? 511 00:28:02,329 --> 00:28:04,300 Because I had bruises. 512 00:28:05,570 --> 00:28:07,239 Can you speak up, please? 513 00:28:09,644 --> 00:28:12,115 I had bruises on my neck and my arms. 514 00:28:13,719 --> 00:28:15,957 And what caused the bruises? 515 00:28:22,203 --> 00:28:23,706 Trey. 516 00:28:24,508 --> 00:28:26,579 Trey, my late husband. 517 00:28:26,579 --> 00:28:28,883 And that's why you killed him, isn't it? 518 00:28:28,883 --> 00:28:30,754 You wanted it to seem like an accident, 519 00:28:30,754 --> 00:28:32,289 but then Ms. Pearce walked in and made everything 520 00:28:32,289 --> 00:28:34,026 more complicated, isn't that right? 521 00:28:34,026 --> 00:28:35,864 But you didn't mean for Val to take the blame. 522 00:28:35,864 --> 00:28:38,301 I mean, did you? Did you mean for all of this to happen? 523 00:28:38,301 --> 00:28:39,938 No. I didn't want this to happen! 524 00:28:39,938 --> 00:28:42,042 Your Honor, I would like to be heard outside 525 00:28:42,042 --> 00:28:44,013 the presence of the jury, please. 526 00:28:44,013 --> 00:28:46,852 Will the bailiff please escort the jury to the jury room? 527 00:28:56,304 --> 00:28:59,143 Your Honor, this witness has a right to counsel. 528 00:28:59,143 --> 00:29:00,947 She has 5th Amendment rights here. 529 00:29:00,947 --> 00:29:03,886 Do you understand that you have a right, 530 00:29:03,886 --> 00:29:05,624 under the 5th Amendment, 531 00:29:05,624 --> 00:29:07,225 not to incriminate yourself in court? 532 00:29:07,225 --> 00:29:09,263 - Yes. - She should have counsel, 533 00:29:09,263 --> 00:29:10,332 judge. 534 00:29:10,332 --> 00:29:13,071 I can arrange for an attorney to advise you. 535 00:29:13,071 --> 00:29:14,808 We can recess until that happens. 536 00:29:14,808 --> 00:29:16,411 No. No. I want to keep going. 537 00:29:16,411 --> 00:29:17,914 I don't want to wait. 538 00:29:17,914 --> 00:29:19,652 I don't wanna keep this in anymore. 539 00:29:19,652 --> 00:29:20,953 I have to object. 540 00:29:20,953 --> 00:29:22,323 You called her, counsellor. 541 00:29:22,323 --> 00:29:25,395 The defense will be allowed this line of inquiry. 542 00:29:32,342 --> 00:29:34,547 You've told us about previous times 543 00:29:34,547 --> 00:29:36,484 that your husband was violent. 544 00:29:36,484 --> 00:29:39,524 Can you talk to us about what happened the day of his death? 545 00:29:39,524 --> 00:29:41,662 Trey and I had an argument 546 00:29:41,662 --> 00:29:43,733 that morning before Oliver woke up. 547 00:29:43,733 --> 00:29:46,037 Can you tell us what you argued about? 548 00:29:47,239 --> 00:29:49,811 Val needed money. She wanted this little sculpture 549 00:29:49,811 --> 00:29:51,882 and I, I told Trey to give it to her. 550 00:29:51,882 --> 00:29:53,886 I thought that we should be generous. 551 00:29:53,886 --> 00:29:55,590 He said the conversation was over, 552 00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:56,892 but I kept pressing him. 553 00:29:57,761 --> 00:30:00,198 And then he got enraged. 554 00:30:01,635 --> 00:30:04,575 He was obsessed with the fact that Val had left him. 555 00:30:04,575 --> 00:30:06,177 He couldn't get over it. 556 00:30:06,979 --> 00:30:09,952 He said he'd never be humiliated like that again, 557 00:30:09,952 --> 00:30:12,957 and if I ever left, he'd kill me. 558 00:30:13,491 --> 00:30:17,166 I told him I was leaving, and I was going to take Oliver, 559 00:30:17,166 --> 00:30:19,069 and then he grabbed me... 560 00:30:20,873 --> 00:30:22,476 And then he started choking me. 561 00:30:25,015 --> 00:30:27,219 And then I blacked out. 562 00:30:28,154 --> 00:30:30,125 I don't remember for how long. 563 00:30:30,125 --> 00:30:33,364 But when I woke up, Trey wanted to have sex. 564 00:30:35,302 --> 00:30:37,974 Just to show that he could control me. 565 00:30:39,409 --> 00:30:41,915 I'm sorry this is the first time I'm saying this out loud. 566 00:30:41,915 --> 00:30:44,019 No, it's okay. You're doing good. 567 00:30:44,019 --> 00:30:48,395 Can you walk me through what happened next? 568 00:30:48,863 --> 00:30:50,633 Trey took a shower. 569 00:30:51,635 --> 00:30:54,073 It felt like I was sleepwalking. 570 00:30:54,908 --> 00:30:57,613 I don't remember making the decision. I just... 571 00:30:58,181 --> 00:31:00,553 I knew in my body what I had to do. 572 00:31:04,226 --> 00:31:07,265 I turned off the breaker for his welder. 573 00:31:10,171 --> 00:31:12,009 And then I switched the cables for the live end 574 00:31:12,009 --> 00:31:13,144 and the ground end. 575 00:31:13,144 --> 00:31:14,647 I put the ground on the steel table. 576 00:31:18,321 --> 00:31:20,993 And then I spilled some water on the floor. 577 00:31:28,308 --> 00:31:30,211 How did you know how to do all that? 578 00:31:30,211 --> 00:31:32,583 Trey loved working on cars. 579 00:31:32,583 --> 00:31:35,723 He taught me about the things he cared about the most. 580 00:31:36,357 --> 00:31:38,696 It was the best part of our relationship. 581 00:31:39,463 --> 00:31:43,405 I turned on the machine and I switched the breaker 582 00:31:43,405 --> 00:31:45,041 when Oliver and I left. 583 00:31:46,177 --> 00:31:49,951 And that meant that the welder would shock him? 584 00:31:49,951 --> 00:31:51,354 The table would. 585 00:31:51,354 --> 00:31:53,458 I didn't know if, if he would touch it. 586 00:31:53,458 --> 00:31:56,097 Or if he would notice that something was wrong, 587 00:31:56,097 --> 00:31:57,400 and he would fix it. 588 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,005 Trey was angry enough that he was distracted, 589 00:32:00,005 --> 00:32:02,511 and it might look like a mistake he made himself. 590 00:32:02,511 --> 00:32:05,014 I told myself that it was up to the universe. 591 00:32:05,014 --> 00:32:07,688 If Trey was supposed to go, then it would work. 592 00:32:08,488 --> 00:32:12,195 But it wasn't the universe. And it wasn't Val. 593 00:32:18,976 --> 00:32:21,013 I did it. 594 00:32:23,218 --> 00:32:25,121 And just to be clear, 595 00:32:25,121 --> 00:32:27,894 you never talked to Ms. Pearce about any of this? 596 00:32:27,894 --> 00:32:29,397 No. Val when you got arrested, 597 00:32:29,397 --> 00:32:32,871 I thought that they would see that it was a mistake, 598 00:32:32,871 --> 00:32:34,574 and it would all go away. But it hasn't. 599 00:32:36,444 --> 00:32:39,317 Trey hid everything bad he ever did. 600 00:32:39,918 --> 00:32:41,521 I don't want to be like him. 601 00:32:44,427 --> 00:32:47,332 I can finally breathe again, now that I've said this. 602 00:32:47,934 --> 00:32:50,271 I'm sorry I let it go this far. 603 00:32:50,271 --> 00:32:53,779 Thank you, Jordan, for your honesty. 604 00:32:54,246 --> 00:32:57,720 I have no further questions, Your Honor. 605 00:33:06,036 --> 00:33:09,243 No redirect. May we approach? 606 00:33:09,243 --> 00:33:10,478 Yes. 607 00:33:11,314 --> 00:33:13,552 The witness may step down. 608 00:33:23,906 --> 00:33:25,175 I'd like to request a recess. 609 00:33:25,175 --> 00:33:26,879 The state has some decisions to make 610 00:33:26,879 --> 00:33:28,649 about the viability of this case. 611 00:33:28,649 --> 00:33:30,553 Yes, I think you do. 612 00:33:34,093 --> 00:33:36,163 Can we talk, Mrs. Winter? 613 00:33:46,652 --> 00:33:49,323 We were talking about forgiveness last week. 614 00:33:49,323 --> 00:33:51,528 I wanted to return to that. 615 00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:53,766 I think forgiveness is a naturally 616 00:33:53,766 --> 00:33:58,308 occurring phenomenon. It unfolds, or it doesn't. 617 00:33:58,308 --> 00:34:03,719 You can have compassion. But you don't decide to forgiv. 618 00:34:04,186 --> 00:34:06,958 And I don't think it happens unless you let yourself 619 00:34:06,958 --> 00:34:09,964 feel your anger and sadness. 620 00:34:09,964 --> 00:34:12,335 That's part of the process. 621 00:34:18,616 --> 00:34:21,087 Oh. hi. 622 00:34:21,087 --> 00:34:23,760 You're baking, out on bail? 623 00:34:24,227 --> 00:34:26,397 I don't know, I just, I had to do something, 624 00:34:26,397 --> 00:34:29,003 and so I started making scones. 625 00:34:29,003 --> 00:34:31,608 Well, can I come in? 626 00:34:32,209 --> 00:34:34,446 I mean, you know I'm not going to murder you. 627 00:34:42,395 --> 00:34:44,834 You can have it. I was going to send it to you. 628 00:34:44,834 --> 00:34:46,638 I don't want it. 629 00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:59,631 - How's Oliver? - He's okay. Considering. 630 00:35:00,198 --> 00:35:03,471 - Did you tell him what I did? - No. No. 631 00:35:05,008 --> 00:35:06,176 Thanks. 632 00:35:06,912 --> 00:35:10,051 He said that you told him 633 00:35:10,051 --> 00:35:12,155 his dad would always be in his heart. 634 00:35:12,155 --> 00:35:14,326 Which is, uh... 635 00:35:18,401 --> 00:35:20,639 You know, his dad didn't know how to love, 636 00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:22,643 and Oliver does. 637 00:35:24,581 --> 00:35:26,417 And I don't want him to lose that. 638 00:35:26,417 --> 00:35:30,358 And so, I'm trying to figure out what to do about you. 639 00:35:30,726 --> 00:35:33,833 Because he loves you. 640 00:35:34,868 --> 00:35:37,773 How did you make it seem like everything was fine? 641 00:35:38,307 --> 00:35:40,078 How did you do that when you were... 642 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,785 you were going through the same thing that I did? 643 00:35:45,422 --> 00:35:47,392 I wanted it to be true. 644 00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:49,898 I was so afraid. 645 00:35:50,198 --> 00:35:51,500 And I didn't say this on the stand, 646 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:55,441 in case Oliver might find out later on, but... 647 00:35:55,441 --> 00:35:58,180 I was afraid for Oliver, too. 648 00:35:59,817 --> 00:36:01,822 - Did Trey hurt him? - No. 649 00:36:01,822 --> 00:36:03,258 But I could see it coming. 650 00:36:04,026 --> 00:36:06,932 Trey was getting worse. And he wanted to punish you 651 00:36:06,932 --> 00:36:08,501 so badly. 652 00:36:08,501 --> 00:36:10,773 I kept thinking that switch would go off in him, 653 00:36:10,773 --> 00:36:11,808 and... 654 00:36:12,844 --> 00:36:14,514 that he would kill all of us. 655 00:36:14,514 --> 00:36:16,116 Then why didn't you tell me? 656 00:36:16,116 --> 00:36:19,222 Because I thought saying it out loud might make it real. 657 00:36:19,222 --> 00:36:21,995 You, you made me feel insane. 658 00:36:21,995 --> 00:36:23,865 Like, like this was all my problem. 659 00:36:23,865 --> 00:36:25,368 - I know. - You let me 660 00:36:25,368 --> 00:36:26,638 put Oliver in danger. 661 00:36:26,638 --> 00:36:29,577 But that's why I did what I did! 662 00:36:36,290 --> 00:36:38,361 You know, the jury is never, 663 00:36:38,361 --> 00:36:41,134 they're never going to believe this was self-defence. 664 00:36:41,134 --> 00:36:42,636 I know. 665 00:36:43,839 --> 00:36:46,979 My lawyer says that choking causes brain damage, 666 00:36:46,979 --> 00:36:52,523 so we could argue that I'm deranged. 667 00:36:52,523 --> 00:36:56,130 Which maybe, I am. I mean, I'm a murderer. 668 00:36:56,130 --> 00:36:57,667 And I let them take you away from Oliver 669 00:36:57,667 --> 00:37:00,405 when I knew that you'd done nothing. 670 00:37:00,973 --> 00:37:04,012 I don't know who I am anymore, that I let that happen. 671 00:37:07,419 --> 00:37:10,291 Well, I know you didn't have to tell the truth on the stand. 672 00:37:10,291 --> 00:37:11,561 I did, though. 673 00:37:11,561 --> 00:37:13,431 I had it in my head that I'd been hurt, 674 00:37:13,431 --> 00:37:15,536 so I needed to save myself. 675 00:37:15,536 --> 00:37:17,105 But... 676 00:37:17,105 --> 00:37:19,476 it was killing me. 677 00:37:21,447 --> 00:37:25,656 Oliver, he, uh, he misses you. 678 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,262 I miss him, too. 679 00:37:40,318 --> 00:37:42,055 That's pretty good. 680 00:37:50,539 --> 00:37:52,676 Where's the green pencil? 681 00:37:52,676 --> 00:37:56,450 Hm? Um, it's right here, buddy. 682 00:37:56,450 --> 00:37:58,922 No, the light green. It was here. 683 00:37:58,922 --> 00:38:00,893 Yeah, I don't know, honey. 684 00:38:04,066 --> 00:38:05,401 Oliver! 685 00:38:06,070 --> 00:38:08,040 See, you had it! 686 00:38:11,380 --> 00:38:12,616 What are you drawing? 687 00:38:12,616 --> 00:38:14,921 It-it's two ninjas escaping from a tower. 688 00:38:14,921 --> 00:38:18,596 Oh! Cool. Do they have superpowers? 689 00:38:18,596 --> 00:38:22,770 Kind of. Like, they're so fast and quiet they seem invisible. 690 00:38:22,770 --> 00:38:25,275 - Oh, got it. - And they protect each other. 691 00:38:25,275 --> 00:38:28,113 Like, one can jump super high to see if they're being chased. 692 00:38:28,113 --> 00:38:29,985 Another one is immune to poison, 693 00:38:29,985 --> 00:38:32,055 so he can drink anything. 694 00:38:32,623 --> 00:38:35,061 Well, when you're done, can I put it on the fridge? 695 00:38:35,061 --> 00:38:37,600 I wish I could give it to Jordan. 696 00:38:40,739 --> 00:38:42,744 You know what, buddy? It's getting kinda late. 697 00:38:42,744 --> 00:38:44,748 Why don't you go brush your teeth, okay? 698 00:38:44,748 --> 00:38:46,851 - Okay. - Okay. 699 00:38:59,611 --> 00:39:01,247 Hey, Marta. It's Val. 700 00:39:01,247 --> 00:39:03,919 Um, listen, can you meet me tomorrow? 701 00:39:03,919 --> 00:39:05,889 I wanted to talk to you about something. 702 00:39:15,543 --> 00:39:18,314 Okay, as your attorney, I'm begging you not to do this. 703 00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:19,784 But I am right. 704 00:39:19,784 --> 00:39:22,556 You're technically right, yes, but it's, it's a risk. 705 00:39:22,556 --> 00:39:24,126 I've been reading about this, okay? 706 00:39:24,126 --> 00:39:26,531 Men get acquitted for self-defence all the time, 707 00:39:26,531 --> 00:39:28,702 but women have to protect themselves 708 00:39:28,702 --> 00:39:30,405 in a way that won't get them killed. 709 00:39:30,405 --> 00:39:32,409 Yes, I know. But... 710 00:39:32,409 --> 00:39:34,412 the law doesn't make you invincible. 711 00:39:34,412 --> 00:39:37,152 I don't know, it kind of does. 712 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:41,628 Okay. Okay. Wait here. I'll... I'll get him. 713 00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:45,937 ...for 24 hours. At that point we bring him... 714 00:39:45,937 --> 00:39:48,575 - Patrick. - Hey. 715 00:39:48,575 --> 00:39:52,783 Hey. Uh, do you have a minute? My client would like a word. 716 00:39:56,991 --> 00:39:58,928 - See ya back at the office. - Yeah. 717 00:40:02,369 --> 00:40:03,872 I thought I wouldn't have to see you again 718 00:40:03,872 --> 00:40:06,712 and be reminded of having my ass handed to me in court. 719 00:40:06,712 --> 00:40:09,316 Uh, well, I was just... 720 00:40:09,316 --> 00:40:11,119 I was thinking about some of the difficulties 721 00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,694 you might be having, um, with the case against Jordan. 722 00:40:14,694 --> 00:40:17,634 - Oh, you were? - Yeah, so, um, 723 00:40:17,634 --> 00:40:20,138 Jordan's testimony injected reasonable doubt 724 00:40:20,138 --> 00:40:23,912 into the case against me, so you dropped it. Right? 725 00:40:25,348 --> 00:40:28,221 - Right. - Right. So, I was thinking, 726 00:40:28,221 --> 00:40:30,760 what if Jordan's lawyer 727 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,497 brought in a witness, who, who knew something 728 00:40:33,497 --> 00:40:37,706 of Trey's violence and his skill at hiding it? 729 00:40:37,706 --> 00:40:40,011 - Go on. - And that person 730 00:40:40,011 --> 00:40:44,887 could break down on the stand and confess to the murder. 731 00:40:44,887 --> 00:40:47,526 And why would someone do that? 732 00:40:47,526 --> 00:40:49,631 Well, they could do it for any reason, really. 733 00:40:49,631 --> 00:40:51,935 But if that someone were already tried for the crime, 734 00:40:51,935 --> 00:40:53,639 you, you couldn't go after them, right? 735 00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:55,776 Because that's called, um... 736 00:40:55,776 --> 00:40:57,780 double jeopardy. Right? - Mm-hmm. 737 00:40:57,780 --> 00:41:01,621 You can't be tried twice for the same thing. 738 00:41:01,921 --> 00:41:03,491 Are you threatening to do that? 739 00:41:03,491 --> 00:41:04,527 She's just talking about 740 00:41:04,527 --> 00:41:06,632 all the remote possibilities. 741 00:41:06,632 --> 00:41:08,769 - Mm-hmm. - Are you saying you killed him? 742 00:41:08,769 --> 00:41:10,338 Oh, I didn't kill anyone. 743 00:41:10,338 --> 00:41:13,612 Are you talking about perjury, then? 744 00:41:13,612 --> 00:41:15,683 Because I could hand this case off to a colleague, 745 00:41:15,683 --> 00:41:17,252 and make myself a witness, 746 00:41:17,252 --> 00:41:19,122 and testify about this conversation. 747 00:41:20,659 --> 00:41:22,295 - He could? - My clients talking 748 00:41:22,295 --> 00:41:23,565 purely in hypotheticals. 749 00:41:23,565 --> 00:41:24,767 This is not a hypothetical. 750 00:41:24,767 --> 00:41:26,404 There's only one person that's been tried 751 00:41:26,404 --> 00:41:27,940 for this crime and can't be tried again. 752 00:41:27,940 --> 00:41:31,213 She's just saying that if something like that happened, 753 00:41:31,213 --> 00:41:34,587 it could create a lot of confusion for a jury. 754 00:41:34,587 --> 00:41:36,725 Mm-hmm. And there might be better cases to prosecute 755 00:41:36,725 --> 00:41:38,928 with more deserving victims. 756 00:41:38,928 --> 00:41:41,466 You don't get to decide who's deserving. 757 00:41:41,466 --> 00:41:43,738 No, but you do. 758 00:41:45,843 --> 00:41:48,381 Is this double-jeopardy thing your idea? 759 00:41:48,381 --> 00:41:49,917 Did you put her up to this? 760 00:41:49,917 --> 00:41:52,289 No, no. I strongly advised her against it. 761 00:41:52,289 --> 00:41:53,457 Mm-hmm. 762 00:41:53,457 --> 00:41:55,061 But you know she's right. 763 00:41:55,061 --> 00:41:57,131 Oh, I feel so much better having told you! 764 00:41:57,131 --> 00:41:59,169 It's been keeping me up at night. Thank you. 765 00:42:00,171 --> 00:42:02,209 Good luck with your decision. 766 00:42:02,209 --> 00:42:03,678 Shall we? 767 00:42:13,330 --> 00:42:15,168 That's a good one. 768 00:42:15,168 --> 00:42:16,537 Oi! 769 00:42:17,707 --> 00:42:19,309 - Hi! - Jordan! 770 00:42:19,309 --> 00:42:21,948 Hi, Oliver. I missed you. 771 00:42:23,852 --> 00:42:25,321 Can you show me some soccer tricks? 772 00:42:25,321 --> 00:42:26,791 Yeah, sure. 773 00:42:27,225 --> 00:42:29,062 - Hi. - Hey. 774 00:42:30,632 --> 00:42:32,603 They dropped the case. - Yeah. 775 00:42:32,603 --> 00:42:34,373 I don't know how to thank you. 776 00:42:34,373 --> 00:42:36,310 Well, just be there for Oliver. 777 00:42:36,310 --> 00:42:38,681 Oh, you're stuck with me. 778 00:42:39,483 --> 00:42:41,587 Here. You should have this. 779 00:42:41,587 --> 00:42:43,457 You don't have to keep it, but it's yours. 780 00:42:43,457 --> 00:42:44,860 Oh. 781 00:42:45,996 --> 00:42:48,635 Thank you. - Can I see that? 782 00:42:48,635 --> 00:42:51,340 Yeah, just be careful. My friend made it. 783 00:42:51,741 --> 00:42:54,046 - You made this? - I wish! 784 00:42:54,046 --> 00:42:56,618 No, it was a friend from a long time ago. 785 00:42:56,618 --> 00:42:58,922 And besides, Jordan isn't a friend. 786 00:42:59,590 --> 00:43:01,093 She's family. 787 00:43:01,093 --> 00:43:02,663 Yeah. 788 00:43:06,637 --> 00:43:08,942 - Wanna walk? - Yeah. 789 00:43:25,274 --> 00:43:28,213 difuze